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	<title>Comments on: White v. Experian et al:  CRAs must update SOME discharged accounts after bankruptcy filing</title>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://creditfactors.com/2008/10/white-v-experian-et-al-cras-must-update-some-discharged-accounts-after-bankruptcy-filing/comment-page-1/#comment-4466</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 04:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diane, since &quot;this has been going on for 5 years now&quot;, I&#039;d say it&#039;s a little LATE to go back to your bankruptcy attorney.

You seem to have a lot of things going on that happened many years ago and SHOULD not impact on your credit scores &lt;strong&gt;if reported CORRECTLY.&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;I couldn’t get approved for even a prequalify mortgage because they stated I would have to pay the judgment&quot;

Simply submit a FACTUAL dispute to Experian to require the &quot;discharged&quot; reporting.

&quot;but that judgment is killing my score.&quot;

&lt;strong&gt;There is NO way that this judgment is killing your score.  &lt;/strong&gt;

Reporting the judgment as paid or discharged won&#039;t give you a single FICO scores point and quite likely, even DELETION of the judgment won&#039;t give you any FICO points because you have the more recent bankruptcy. 
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Don&#039;t confuse credit scores with mortgage lender requirements.&lt;/strong&gt;  

JUDGMENTS have to be paid before you can get title insurance to buy a house even if &lt;strong&gt;NOT&lt;/strong&gt; reported on your credit.

The American General bad debt/derogatory account MIGHT be negatively impacting on your credit.  But, I&#039;d have to see the reporting. 

You mention that the account is not legit, again, simply submit a FACTUAL dispute to Experian.

&lt;strong&gt;If Experian doesn&#039;t correct the reporting of the account, sue Experian AND American General.&lt;/strong&gt;  

But the JUDGMENT reporting is only the fault of Experian.  They should automatically report the judgment as discharged.  

All too often it takes publication and/or a lawsuit to get the credit you deserve, see &lt;a href=&quot;http://liarsandcheats.info/credit-bureau-experian-and-devry-reporting-false-late-payments-refusal-to-delete/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Credit Bureau Experian and DeVry Reporting False Late Payments and Refusal to Delete&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diane, since &#8220;this has been going on for 5 years now&#8221;, I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s a little LATE to go back to your bankruptcy attorney.</p>
<p>You seem to have a lot of things going on that happened many years ago and SHOULD not impact on your credit scores <strong>if reported CORRECTLY.</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;I couldn’t get approved for even a prequalify mortgage because they stated I would have to pay the judgment&#8221;</p>
<p>Simply submit a FACTUAL dispute to Experian to require the &#8220;discharged&#8221; reporting.</p>
<p>&#8220;but that judgment is killing my score.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>There is NO way that this judgment is killing your score.  </strong></p>
<p>Reporting the judgment as paid or discharged won&#8217;t give you a single FICO scores point and quite likely, even DELETION of the judgment won&#8217;t give you any FICO points because you have the more recent bankruptcy.<br />
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Don&#8217;t confuse credit scores with mortgage lender requirements.</strong>  </p>
<p>JUDGMENTS have to be paid before you can get title insurance to buy a house even if <strong>NOT</strong> reported on your credit.</p>
<p>The American General bad debt/derogatory account MIGHT be negatively impacting on your credit.  But, I&#8217;d have to see the reporting. </p>
<p>You mention that the account is not legit, again, simply submit a FACTUAL dispute to Experian.</p>
<p><strong>If Experian doesn&#8217;t correct the reporting of the account, sue Experian AND American General.</strong>  </p>
<p>But the JUDGMENT reporting is only the fault of Experian.  They should automatically report the judgment as discharged.  </p>
<p>All too often it takes publication and/or a lawsuit to get the credit you deserve, see <a href="http://liarsandcheats.info/credit-bureau-experian-and-devry-reporting-false-late-payments-refusal-to-delete/" rel="nofollow">Credit Bureau Experian and DeVry Reporting False Late Payments and Refusal to Delete</a></p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I received the post card to join in on this lawsuit back in October 2009.  I had a judgment that was listed on my credit reports that never reached judgment as I already had filed for bk. I couldn&#039;t get approved for even a prequalify mortgage because they stated I would have to pay the judgment prior to this from American General Finance-listed twice on my CRs - one for the judgement stating I owed $5000.00 and then listed under bad debts/derogatory accounts as charged off-$3000.00, the thing is it was a car loan and they received payment for the car as I sold it-the original loan was for $2500 and I sold the car for $2000.00 had made prior loan payments etc. 2 out of the 3 CRAs finally fixed it but Experian still shows it as a judgment and not that it was discharged in BK-that I still owe what they say as $5000.00-they only corrected the one listed under bad debts for $3000. Do you have any suggestions, should I go back to my bk attorney...this has been going on for 5 years now, me trying to get my credit reports updated.  I have had good credit since-but that judgment is killing my score.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received the post card to join in on this lawsuit back in October 2009.  I had a judgment that was listed on my credit reports that never reached judgment as I already had filed for bk. I couldn&#8217;t get approved for even a prequalify mortgage because they stated I would have to pay the judgment prior to this from American General Finance-listed twice on my CRs &#8211; one for the judgement stating I owed $5000.00 and then listed under bad debts/derogatory accounts as charged off-$3000.00, the thing is it was a car loan and they received payment for the car as I sold it-the original loan was for $2500 and I sold the car for $2000.00 had made prior loan payments etc. 2 out of the 3 CRAs finally fixed it but Experian still shows it as a judgment and not that it was discharged in BK-that I still owe what they say as $5000.00-they only corrected the one listed under bad debts for $3000. Do you have any suggestions, should I go back to my bk attorney&#8230;this has been going on for 5 years now, me trying to get my credit reports updated.  I have had good credit since-but that judgment is killing my score.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://creditfactors.com/2008/10/white-v-experian-et-al-cras-must-update-some-discharged-accounts-after-bankruptcy-filing/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sued Experian for continuing to report the bk or charge-off INCORRECTLY. But then I had to DISMISS Experian to get them to delete my UNREDACTED credit reports from the public record (for download by ANYONE).  

I obviously didn&#039;t want the whole world to see my entire credit reports with all my personal information.  And, the court of appeals AFFIRMED, stating it is perfectly fine for credit bureaus to make the credit reports public when you sue them.  

When I posted that I was looking for judge Broomfield&#039;s address to publicize, a US marshal visited me.  

That&#039;s &quot;justice&quot; and &quot;equal rights&quot; in America.

Anyway, my deposition of Experian employee Kimberly Hughes regarding the reporting is posted at CreditCourt.

&quot;Because of this Experian is extending how long the BK will stay on my report.&quot;

I don&#039;t believe that.  The BK reporting is based on the public record.  

I would start by submitting a FACTUAL dispute and then submitting a PUBLISHED FTC complaint if they don&#039;t correct it.  

I&#039;m currently setting up a new site for my DOCUMENTED complaints to demand ENFORCEMENT.

We all know how Bush sucked and ordered the FTC to NOT enforce consumer protection laws, let&#039;s see whether Obama brought any change.

I&#039;ll post here when the site is ready.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sued Experian for continuing to report the bk or charge-off INCORRECTLY. But then I had to DISMISS Experian to get them to delete my UNREDACTED credit reports from the public record (for download by ANYONE).  </p>
<p>I obviously didn&#8217;t want the whole world to see my entire credit reports with all my personal information.  And, the court of appeals AFFIRMED, stating it is perfectly fine for credit bureaus to make the credit reports public when you sue them.  </p>
<p>When I posted that I was looking for judge Broomfield&#8217;s address to publicize, a US marshal visited me.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s &#8220;justice&#8221; and &#8220;equal rights&#8221; in America.</p>
<p>Anyway, my deposition of Experian employee Kimberly Hughes regarding the reporting is posted at CreditCourt.</p>
<p>&#8220;Because of this Experian is extending how long the BK will stay on my report.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that.  The BK reporting is based on the public record.  </p>
<p>I would start by submitting a FACTUAL dispute and then submitting a PUBLISHED FTC complaint if they don&#8217;t correct it.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently setting up a new site for my DOCUMENTED complaints to demand ENFORCEMENT.</p>
<p>We all know how Bush sucked and ordered the FTC to NOT enforce consumer protection laws, let&#8217;s see whether Obama brought any change.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll post here when the site is ready.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://creditfactors.com/2008/10/white-v-experian-et-al-cras-must-update-some-discharged-accounts-after-bankruptcy-filing/comment-page-1/#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone tell me if the credit bureau&#039;s can still reported &quot;included in bankruptcy&quot; &quot;charge-off&quot;?  Do they have to delete late payments prior to bankruptcy?  My biggest problem is with HSBC - they are duplicating that I filed BK - on 12/31/08, 1/12/09, 3/15/09 and 3/17/09.  The actual date of filing was 6/7/07.  Because of this Experian is extending how long the BK will stay on my report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone tell me if the credit bureau&#8217;s can still reported &#8220;included in bankruptcy&#8221; &#8220;charge-off&#8221;?  Do they have to delete late payments prior to bankruptcy?  My biggest problem is with HSBC &#8211; they are duplicating that I filed BK &#8211; on 12/31/08, 1/12/09, 3/15/09 and 3/17/09.  The actual date of filing was 6/7/07.  Because of this Experian is extending how long the BK will stay on my report.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://creditfactors.com/2008/10/white-v-experian-et-al-cras-must-update-some-discharged-accounts-after-bankruptcy-filing/comment-page-1/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://creditfactors.com/resistance/viewforum.php?f=9 but http://fdrs-debt-elimination-scam.info/ has the most current info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://creditfactors.com/resistance/viewforum.php?f=9" rel="nofollow">http://creditfactors.com/resistance/viewforum.php?f=9</a> but <a href="http://fdrs-debt-elimination-scam.info/" rel="nofollow">http://fdrs-debt-elimination-scam.info/</a> has the most current info.</p>
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		<title>By: scott mabry</title>
		<link>http://creditfactors.com/2008/10/white-v-experian-et-al-cras-must-update-some-discharged-accounts-after-bankruptcy-filing/comment-page-1/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>scott mabry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there an alternate site posting your research on fdrs SInce your creditsuit site is down?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there an alternate site posting your research on fdrs SInce your creditsuit site is down?</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://creditfactors.com/2008/10/white-v-experian-et-al-cras-must-update-some-discharged-accounts-after-bankruptcy-filing/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, this is NOT a bk lawyer, but the thug tried to advertise a page with nothing but bk lawyer ads.  It&#039;s AMAZING what people come up with to spam their crap.  

Of course one only needs to READ my post to see that this is pure spam as I offer detailed comments on the subject in my above post.

&quot;I do NOT understand why Experian is allowed report the status date as a month AFTER the discharge date.  Lawyers on drugs???&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, this is NOT a bk lawyer, but the thug tried to advertise a page with nothing but bk lawyer ads.  It&#8217;s AMAZING what people come up with to spam their crap.  </p>
<p>Of course one only needs to READ my post to see that this is pure spam as I offer detailed comments on the subject in my above post.</p>
<p>&#8220;I do NOT understand why Experian is allowed report the status date as a month AFTER the discharge date.  Lawyers on drugs???&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bankruptcy Lawyer</title>
		<link>http://creditfactors.com/2008/10/white-v-experian-et-al-cras-must-update-some-discharged-accounts-after-bankruptcy-filing/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Bankruptcy Lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[spam URL deleted]

Experian is still using the discharge date instead of the filing date - is the applied unilaterally to everyone when dealing w/ Experian? Just curious as you&#039;re right about this lowering FICO scores across the board, seeems pretty inane - but typical of credit reporting agencies.</description>
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<p>Experian is still using the discharge date instead of the filing date &#8211; is the applied unilaterally to everyone when dealing w/ Experian? Just curious as you&#8217;re right about this lowering FICO scores across the board, seeems pretty inane &#8211; but typical of credit reporting agencies.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Baker</title>
		<link>http://creditfactors.com/2008/10/white-v-experian-et-al-cras-must-update-some-discharged-accounts-after-bankruptcy-filing/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct. If the CRAs follow the prescribed procedures, they comply with the FCRA as far as reasonable procedures are concerned.

Please read my post above for details about legal rights to dispute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct. If the CRAs follow the prescribed procedures, they comply with the FCRA as far as reasonable procedures are concerned.</p>
<p>Please read my post above for details about legal rights to dispute.</p>
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		<title>By: F White</title>
		<link>http://creditfactors.com/2008/10/white-v-experian-et-al-cras-must-update-some-discharged-accounts-after-bankruptcy-filing/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>F White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 03:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reading about the case.  Thought it mentioned something about how this ruling will preempt any future lawsuits over BK reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading about the case.  Thought it mentioned something about how this ruling will preempt any future lawsuits over BK reporting.</p>
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