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		<title>Comment on Credit bureaus and Sallie Mae REFUSE to correct student loan high credit reporting by Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 05:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary, please see http://liarsandcheats.info/incorrect-student-loan-reporting-lowers-fico-scores/

I had posted the follow up disputes for my client, but he never sent them as he got busy, moved, etc. and it wasn&#039;t at the top of his list of things to do.

I currently have several other clients with that problem, but it&#039;s NOT their big issue.  It&#039;s not surprising that people hire me to deal with collections and chargeoffs and those issues are more important for their FICO scores.  

If you have a few hundred thousand dollars to spare (millions would be better), a class action will likely work.

If not, you&#039;ll have to do it the hard way and get it done yourself.  Submit FACTUAL and PUBLIC complaints to regulators, publish their responses, sue in small claims, pay for national press releases, ... 

Maybe one of my clients will decide to pursue the issue, just got another round of verifications WITHOUT the correct high credit.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I would suggest the date loans went into repayment. That would make everyone’s loan amount the highest the date repayment starts&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you read the blog at Liars &amp; Cheats Exposed you&#039;ll see that many peoples&#039; balances INCREASE while making payments due to income based repayment plans.  Many people don&#039;t make nearly enough to pay off their student loans, they just don&#039;t have the income.

I&#039;m with Webster Tarpley and would definitely be for forgiving the 1 trillion + in student loans.  That&#039;ll be the day.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary, please see <a href="http://liarsandcheats.info/incorrect-student-loan-reporting-lowers-fico-scores/" rel="nofollow">http://liarsandcheats.info/incorrect-student-loan-reporting-lowers-fico-scores/</a></p>
<p>I had posted the follow up disputes for my client, but he never sent them as he got busy, moved, etc. and it wasn&#8217;t at the top of his list of things to do.</p>
<p>I currently have several other clients with that problem, but it&#8217;s NOT their big issue.  It&#8217;s not surprising that people hire me to deal with collections and chargeoffs and those issues are more important for their FICO scores.  </p>
<p>If you have a few hundred thousand dollars to spare (millions would be better), a class action will likely work.</p>
<p>If not, you&#8217;ll have to do it the hard way and get it done yourself.  Submit FACTUAL and PUBLIC complaints to regulators, publish their responses, sue in small claims, pay for national press releases, &#8230; </p>
<p>Maybe one of my clients will decide to pursue the issue, just got another round of verifications WITHOUT the correct high credit.</p>
<blockquote><p>I would suggest the date loans went into repayment. That would make everyone’s loan amount the highest the date repayment starts</p></blockquote>
<p>If you read the blog at Liars &#038; Cheats Exposed you&#8217;ll see that many peoples&#8217; balances INCREASE while making payments due to income based repayment plans.  Many people don&#8217;t make nearly enough to pay off their student loans, they just don&#8217;t have the income.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with Webster Tarpley and would definitely be for forgiving the 1 trillion + in student loans.  That&#8217;ll be the day.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Credit bureaus and Sallie Mae REFUSE to correct student loan high credit reporting by Gary</title>
		<link>http://creditfactors.com/2008/09/credit-bureaus-and-sallie-mae-refuse-to-correct-student-loan-high-credit-reporting/comment-page-1/#comment-5666</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 04:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a simple fix by the Department of Education.  They can work with other executive branch agencies to write a regulation requiring Sallie Mae to report the amount correctly.  I would suggest the date loans went into repayment.  That would make everyone&#039;s loan amount the highest the date repayment starts.  Write the President, let the White House work for the student vote this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a simple fix by the Department of Education.  They can work with other executive branch agencies to write a regulation requiring Sallie Mae to report the amount correctly.  I would suggest the date loans went into repayment.  That would make everyone&#8217;s loan amount the highest the date repayment starts.  Write the President, let the White House work for the student vote this time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Credit bureaus and Sallie Mae REFUSE to correct student loan high credit reporting by Gary Richmond</title>
		<link>http://creditfactors.com/2008/09/credit-bureaus-and-sallie-mae-refuse-to-correct-student-loan-high-credit-reporting/comment-page-1/#comment-5664</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Richmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 01:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am considering a class action law suit against sallie mae for thier reporting of high limit loans information.  I believe the high limit should be the amount of the loan once it goes into repayment, not the amount of the loan the day it is written.  I am going to spend the week looking at regulation but I would be surprised to see if there is a legal requirement to report the limit the date the loan was made.  I believe it is a fairness issue and a federal court would come down on the side of the student.  For it to work thousands of student borrowers would need to be involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am considering a class action law suit against sallie mae for thier reporting of high limit loans information.  I believe the high limit should be the amount of the loan once it goes into repayment, not the amount of the loan the day it is written.  I am going to spend the week looking at regulation but I would be surprised to see if there is a legal requirement to report the limit the date the loan was made.  I believe it is a fairness issue and a federal court would come down on the side of the student.  For it to work thousands of student borrowers would need to be involved.</p>
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		<title>Comment on FCRA Section 623(a) violations do NOT result in legal claims for consumers by Christine</title>
		<link>http://creditfactors.com/2008/09/fcra-section-623a-violations-do-not-result-in-legal-claims-for-consumers/comment-page-1/#comment-5521</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 00:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A charged off account CAN be reported as chargeoff every month, but they also have to report the Date of Last Activity (Equifax) and Date Closed (TU).  For Experian it gets complicated, but the Date of Status MAY be critical.  I&#039;ve posted in more detail about these issues at the blog here.

With otherwise good credit a CORRECTLY REPORTED 2008 charge-off should not lower your scores below the mid to high 600s. However, you COULD be subjected to the Equifax FICTITIOUS late payments, see http://mylitigation.net/pr.php/news/release/2_26_07_open_letter_fair_isaac_regarding_its_addition_of_fictitious_data

I have the documentation proving that as of June 2011 myFICO had NOT fixed this bug.  And I just had another client with a myFICO report that has the fictitious late payments, but I can&#039;t prove that they lower the scores because he has so many other problems.

Hopefully your attorney is smart enough and willing to take the time to figure out why your scores are so low.  I find that most people don&#039;t understand the credit reports well enough to determine WHY their scores are so low and often it&#039;s just a missing or incorrect piece of data.

So if you can&#039;t get the account deleted and you still want to buy a house, I highly recommend subscribing to the CreditFactors knowledgebase and member forum where I&#039;ll be glad to help you if you post the reporting of the account and your myFICO score factors.  Or you can order the Credit Review or the Analysis (only recommended for people who need higher FICO scores for a mortgage.)

Since the account is NOT yours, I sure hope they&#039;ll delete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A charged off account CAN be reported as chargeoff every month, but they also have to report the Date of Last Activity (Equifax) and Date Closed (TU).  For Experian it gets complicated, but the Date of Status MAY be critical.  I&#8217;ve posted in more detail about these issues at the blog here.</p>
<p>With otherwise good credit a CORRECTLY REPORTED 2008 charge-off should not lower your scores below the mid to high 600s. However, you COULD be subjected to the Equifax FICTITIOUS late payments, see <a href="http://mylitigation.net/pr.php/news/release/2_26_07_open_letter_fair_isaac_regarding_its_addition_of_fictitious_data" rel="nofollow">http://mylitigation.net/pr.php/news/release/2_26_07_open_letter_fair_isaac_regarding_its_addition_of_fictitious_data</a></p>
<p>I have the documentation proving that as of June 2011 myFICO had NOT fixed this bug.  And I just had another client with a myFICO report that has the fictitious late payments, but I can&#8217;t prove that they lower the scores because he has so many other problems.</p>
<p>Hopefully your attorney is smart enough and willing to take the time to figure out why your scores are so low.  I find that most people don&#8217;t understand the credit reports well enough to determine WHY their scores are so low and often it&#8217;s just a missing or incorrect piece of data.</p>
<p>So if you can&#8217;t get the account deleted and you still want to buy a house, I highly recommend subscribing to the CreditFactors knowledgebase and member forum where I&#8217;ll be glad to help you if you post the reporting of the account and your myFICO score factors.  Or you can order the Credit Review or the Analysis (only recommended for people who need higher FICO scores for a mortgage.)</p>
<p>Since the account is NOT yours, I sure hope they&#8217;ll delete.</p>
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		<title>Comment on FCRA Section 623(a) violations do NOT result in legal claims for consumers by Mary Bernhard</title>
		<link>http://creditfactors.com/2008/09/fcra-section-623a-violations-do-not-result-in-legal-claims-for-consumers/comment-page-1/#comment-5520</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Bernhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 23:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this mean a charged off account can be reported as new everymonth until it falls off credit report? By doing this a recent late payment with a recent CO shows up for, in my case 4 years. keeping my credit score under 600. I am currently in a law suit as this debt is not mine and was not known to me unitl I went to buy a house. Disputes have turne up the original charge off was in 2008. Anybody know the answer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this mean a charged off account can be reported as new everymonth until it falls off credit report? By doing this a recent late payment with a recent CO shows up for, in my case 4 years. keeping my credit score under 600. I am currently in a law suit as this debt is not mine and was not known to me unitl I went to buy a house. Disputes have turne up the original charge off was in 2008. Anybody know the answer?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Analyzing myFICO reports 101 by Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 04:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To a certain extent, yes.   Sometimes it&#039;s a no brainer -- such as when a score factor states that an account was last delinquent 1 month ago.    You look for the account that&#039;s &quot;considered&quot; late one month ago -- either because the account is report as late, because Trans Union reports an old charge-off without the date CLOSED and it was last reported a month ago or because an old charge-off is reported on Equifax and therefore rated as late the last time it was reported (a bug in the FICO scoring formula).

It&#039;s easy to determine which accounts cause certain score factors with just a few derogatory accounts, but if there are many derogatory accounts it can get difficult or impossible to PROVE which accounts are causing a certain score factor to appear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To a certain extent, yes.   Sometimes it&#8217;s a no brainer &#8212; such as when a score factor states that an account was last delinquent 1 month ago.    You look for the account that&#8217;s &#8220;considered&#8221; late one month ago &#8212; either because the account is report as late, because Trans Union reports an old charge-off without the date CLOSED and it was last reported a month ago or because an old charge-off is reported on Equifax and therefore rated as late the last time it was reported (a bug in the FICO scoring formula).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to determine which accounts cause certain score factors with just a few derogatory accounts, but if there are many derogatory accounts it can get difficult or impossible to PROVE which accounts are causing a certain score factor to appear.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Analyzing myFICO reports 101 by jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 23:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you feel that myfico is accurate in telling which accounts are causing negative factors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you feel that myfico is accurate in telling which accounts are causing negative factors?</p>
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		<title>Comment on White v. Experian et al:  CRAs must update SOME discharged accounts after bankruptcy filing by Christine</title>
		<link>http://creditfactors.com/2008/10/white-v-experian-et-al-cras-must-update-some-discharged-accounts-after-bankruptcy-filing/comment-page-1/#comment-4466</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 04:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diane, since &quot;this has been going on for 5 years now&quot;, I&#039;d say it&#039;s a little LATE to go back to your bankruptcy attorney.

You seem to have a lot of things going on that happened many years ago and SHOULD not impact on your credit scores &lt;strong&gt;if reported CORRECTLY.&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;I couldn’t get approved for even a prequalify mortgage because they stated I would have to pay the judgment&quot;

Simply submit a FACTUAL dispute to Experian to require the &quot;discharged&quot; reporting.

&quot;but that judgment is killing my score.&quot;

&lt;strong&gt;There is NO way that this judgment is killing your score.  &lt;/strong&gt;

Reporting the judgment as paid or discharged won&#039;t give you a single FICO scores point and quite likely, even DELETION of the judgment won&#039;t give you any FICO points because you have the more recent bankruptcy. 
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Don&#039;t confuse credit scores with mortgage lender requirements.&lt;/strong&gt;  

JUDGMENTS have to be paid before you can get title insurance to buy a house even if &lt;strong&gt;NOT&lt;/strong&gt; reported on your credit.

The American General bad debt/derogatory account MIGHT be negatively impacting on your credit.  But, I&#039;d have to see the reporting. 

You mention that the account is not legit, again, simply submit a FACTUAL dispute to Experian.

&lt;strong&gt;If Experian doesn&#039;t correct the reporting of the account, sue Experian AND American General.&lt;/strong&gt;  

But the JUDGMENT reporting is only the fault of Experian.  They should automatically report the judgment as discharged.  

All too often it takes publication and/or a lawsuit to get the credit you deserve, see &lt;a href=&quot;http://liarsandcheats.info/credit-bureau-experian-and-devry-reporting-false-late-payments-refusal-to-delete/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Credit Bureau Experian and DeVry Reporting False Late Payments and Refusal to Delete&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diane, since &#8220;this has been going on for 5 years now&#8221;, I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s a little LATE to go back to your bankruptcy attorney.</p>
<p>You seem to have a lot of things going on that happened many years ago and SHOULD not impact on your credit scores <strong>if reported CORRECTLY.</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;I couldn’t get approved for even a prequalify mortgage because they stated I would have to pay the judgment&#8221;</p>
<p>Simply submit a FACTUAL dispute to Experian to require the &#8220;discharged&#8221; reporting.</p>
<p>&#8220;but that judgment is killing my score.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>There is NO way that this judgment is killing your score.  </strong></p>
<p>Reporting the judgment as paid or discharged won&#8217;t give you a single FICO scores point and quite likely, even DELETION of the judgment won&#8217;t give you any FICO points because you have the more recent bankruptcy.<br />
<strong><br />
Don&#8217;t confuse credit scores with mortgage lender requirements.</strong>  </p>
<p>JUDGMENTS have to be paid before you can get title insurance to buy a house even if <strong>NOT</strong> reported on your credit.</p>
<p>The American General bad debt/derogatory account MIGHT be negatively impacting on your credit.  But, I&#8217;d have to see the reporting. </p>
<p>You mention that the account is not legit, again, simply submit a FACTUAL dispute to Experian.</p>
<p><strong>If Experian doesn&#8217;t correct the reporting of the account, sue Experian AND American General.</strong>  </p>
<p>But the JUDGMENT reporting is only the fault of Experian.  They should automatically report the judgment as discharged.  </p>
<p>All too often it takes publication and/or a lawsuit to get the credit you deserve, see <a href="http://liarsandcheats.info/credit-bureau-experian-and-devry-reporting-false-late-payments-refusal-to-delete/" rel="nofollow">Credit Bureau Experian and DeVry Reporting False Late Payments and Refusal to Delete</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on White v. Experian et al:  CRAs must update SOME discharged accounts after bankruptcy filing by Diane</title>
		<link>http://creditfactors.com/2008/10/white-v-experian-et-al-cras-must-update-some-discharged-accounts-after-bankruptcy-filing/comment-page-1/#comment-4465</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I received the post card to join in on this lawsuit back in October 2009.  I had a judgment that was listed on my credit reports that never reached judgment as I already had filed for bk. I couldn&#039;t get approved for even a prequalify mortgage because they stated I would have to pay the judgment prior to this from American General Finance-listed twice on my CRs - one for the judgement stating I owed $5000.00 and then listed under bad debts/derogatory accounts as charged off-$3000.00, the thing is it was a car loan and they received payment for the car as I sold it-the original loan was for $2500 and I sold the car for $2000.00 had made prior loan payments etc. 2 out of the 3 CRAs finally fixed it but Experian still shows it as a judgment and not that it was discharged in BK-that I still owe what they say as $5000.00-they only corrected the one listed under bad debts for $3000. Do you have any suggestions, should I go back to my bk attorney...this has been going on for 5 years now, me trying to get my credit reports updated.  I have had good credit since-but that judgment is killing my score.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received the post card to join in on this lawsuit back in October 2009.  I had a judgment that was listed on my credit reports that never reached judgment as I already had filed for bk. I couldn&#8217;t get approved for even a prequalify mortgage because they stated I would have to pay the judgment prior to this from American General Finance-listed twice on my CRs &#8211; one for the judgement stating I owed $5000.00 and then listed under bad debts/derogatory accounts as charged off-$3000.00, the thing is it was a car loan and they received payment for the car as I sold it-the original loan was for $2500 and I sold the car for $2000.00 had made prior loan payments etc. 2 out of the 3 CRAs finally fixed it but Experian still shows it as a judgment and not that it was discharged in BK-that I still owe what they say as $5000.00-they only corrected the one listed under bad debts for $3000. Do you have any suggestions, should I go back to my bk attorney&#8230;this has been going on for 5 years now, me trying to get my credit reports updated.  I have had good credit since-but that judgment is killing my score.</p>
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		<title>Comment on White v. Experian et al:  CRAs must update SOME discharged accounts after bankruptcy filing by Christine</title>
		<link>http://creditfactors.com/2008/10/white-v-experian-et-al-cras-must-update-some-discharged-accounts-after-bankruptcy-filing/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sued Experian for continuing to report the bk or charge-off INCORRECTLY. But then I had to DISMISS Experian to get them to delete my UNREDACTED credit reports from the public record (for download by ANYONE).  

I obviously didn&#039;t want the whole world to see my entire credit reports with all my personal information.  And, the court of appeals AFFIRMED, stating it is perfectly fine for credit bureaus to make the credit reports public when you sue them.  

When I posted that I was looking for judge Broomfield&#039;s address to publicize, a US marshal visited me.  

That&#039;s &quot;justice&quot; and &quot;equal rights&quot; in America.

Anyway, my deposition of Experian employee Kimberly Hughes regarding the reporting is posted at CreditCourt.

&quot;Because of this Experian is extending how long the BK will stay on my report.&quot;

I don&#039;t believe that.  The BK reporting is based on the public record.  

I would start by submitting a FACTUAL dispute and then submitting a PUBLISHED FTC complaint if they don&#039;t correct it.  

I&#039;m currently setting up a new site for my DOCUMENTED complaints to demand ENFORCEMENT.

We all know how Bush sucked and ordered the FTC to NOT enforce consumer protection laws, let&#039;s see whether Obama brought any change.

I&#039;ll post here when the site is ready.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sued Experian for continuing to report the bk or charge-off INCORRECTLY. But then I had to DISMISS Experian to get them to delete my UNREDACTED credit reports from the public record (for download by ANYONE).  </p>
<p>I obviously didn&#8217;t want the whole world to see my entire credit reports with all my personal information.  And, the court of appeals AFFIRMED, stating it is perfectly fine for credit bureaus to make the credit reports public when you sue them.  </p>
<p>When I posted that I was looking for judge Broomfield&#8217;s address to publicize, a US marshal visited me.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s &#8220;justice&#8221; and &#8220;equal rights&#8221; in America.</p>
<p>Anyway, my deposition of Experian employee Kimberly Hughes regarding the reporting is posted at CreditCourt.</p>
<p>&#8220;Because of this Experian is extending how long the BK will stay on my report.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that.  The BK reporting is based on the public record.  </p>
<p>I would start by submitting a FACTUAL dispute and then submitting a PUBLISHED FTC complaint if they don&#8217;t correct it.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently setting up a new site for my DOCUMENTED complaints to demand ENFORCEMENT.</p>
<p>We all know how Bush sucked and ordered the FTC to NOT enforce consumer protection laws, let&#8217;s see whether Obama brought any change.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll post here when the site is ready.</p>
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